Comments on: Marina’s Message to Clement http://www.whatwedoissecret.org/madebyblog/2006/06/marinas-message-to-clement/ A Blog by A Lab on Fire Fri, 30 Dec 2011 06:40:38 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: MADE BY BLOG » Marina’s Message to Clement regarding the second mod of Holy Grail http://www.whatwedoissecret.org/madebyblog/2006/06/marinas-message-to-clement/comment-page-1/#comment-178 MADE BY BLOG » Marina’s Message to Clement regarding the second mod of Holy Grail Tue, 11 Jul 2006 14:36:50 +0000 http://whatwedoissecret.org/madebyblog/2006/06/16/marinas-message-to-clement/#comment-178 [...] I would absolutely love the scent to have more woods, particularly sandalwood. And I would be so happy if the musk was made much, much stronger. I also want this musk to be very obviously “dirty”. No clean musk for me, please. I don’t know if you had a chance to read the comments made by our readers about the first mod…One of my wonderful fellow bloggers, March, came up with an idea of Marina’s Skank-o-Meter. On a scale of 1 to 10, where Clair de Musc by Serge Lutens is 1 and Muscs Koublai Khan is a perfect 10, I would like my Holy Grail to be 8,5 or maybe even 9. Please don’t hold back and don’t be afraid to scare me off with animalic notes. I love my scents to be dark and dirty. [...] [...] I would absolutely love the scent to have more woods, particularly sandalwood. And I would be so happy if the musk was made much, much stronger. I also want this musk to be very obviously “dirty”. No clean musk for me, please. I don’t know if you had a chance to read the comments made by our readers about the first mod…One of my wonderful fellow bloggers, March, came up with an idea of Marina’s Skank-o-Meter. On a scale of 1 to 10, where Clair de Musc by Serge Lutens is 1 and Muscs Koublai Khan is a perfect 10, I would like my Holy Grail to be 8,5 or maybe even 9. Please don’t hold back and don’t be afraid to scare me off with animalic notes. I love my scents to be dark and dirty. [...]

]]> By: Marina http://www.whatwedoissecret.org/madebyblog/2006/06/marinas-message-to-clement/comment-page-1/#comment-135 Marina Wed, 21 Jun 2006 17:32:56 +0000 http://whatwedoissecret.org/madebyblog/2006/06/16/marinas-message-to-clement/#comment-135 C, I am so glad you like it. I am also curious to see whether yuo will like the next version(s) as much. They hopefully will be less sparkly and more "on the dark side" :-) I am going to look for MOn Ange on ebay. C,
I am so glad you like it. I am also curious to see whether yuo will like the next version(s) as much. They hopefully will be less sparkly and more “on the dark side” :-)
I am going to look for MOn Ange on ebay.

]]> By: kuri http://www.whatwedoissecret.org/madebyblog/2006/06/marinas-message-to-clement/comment-page-1/#comment-134 kuri Wed, 21 Jun 2006 15:53:53 +0000 http://whatwedoissecret.org/madebyblog/2006/06/16/marinas-message-to-clement/#comment-134 What lovely reviews. Cool, I will definitely be spritzing my friends with this! Maybe I just don't know what bitter almond smells like :D I tried it on again today in much cooler weather. Today I get the "sparkly sweet citrusy top" that Victoria mentioned, and it's a lively spicy citrus that I find very delicious, although it seems very sweet. I would have thought the sweetness would bother me, but it doesn't at all. I suppose the spice balances it out. I think it reminds me of Hawaiian Punch, which I haven't smelled in years. (off topic: <a href="http://letsgo.jp/harajuku/shop/ici/goods/3494800025048/?CGISESSID=43c3ee7c0c77159a00428fa071077bfb" rel="nofollow">mon ange</a> appears to be a <a href="http://icietla.exblog.jp/" rel="nofollow">release limited to Japan</a>) What lovely reviews.
Cool, I will definitely be spritzing my friends with this! Maybe I just don’t know what bitter almond smells like :D
I tried it on again today in much cooler weather. Today I get the “sparkly sweet citrusy top” that Victoria mentioned, and it’s a lively spicy citrus that I find very delicious, although it seems very sweet. I would have thought the sweetness would bother me, but it doesn’t at all. I suppose the spice balances it out. I think it reminds me of Hawaiian Punch, which I haven’t smelled in years.
(off topic: mon ange appears to be a release limited to Japan)

]]> By: Marina http://www.whatwedoissecret.org/madebyblog/2006/06/marinas-message-to-clement/comment-page-1/#comment-132 Marina Tue, 20 Jun 2006 16:21:10 +0000 http://whatwedoissecret.org/madebyblog/2006/06/16/marinas-message-to-clement/#comment-132 Dear Andy, Thank you so much for you wonderful review! When you mentioned myrrh, I actually jumped in my chair, because when I smelled the scent for the first time, that almondy-medicinal quality that it has made me think of that aspect myrrh. I must say I like myrrh as a note but not this almondy-medicinal quality of it (which is very evident in Lutens La Myrrhe, for example). I also would like the saffron note to be made more substantional and, as you say, edible. The same applies to iris. Your very professional nose found the note there, although you thought it was not convincing yet. My untrained nose didn't even detect iris in Mod 1 :-) Thank yuo again for the review, Andy! It was fascinating to read, truly! Dear Andy,
Thank you so much for you wonderful review!
When you mentioned myrrh, I actually jumped in my chair, because when I smelled the scent for the first time, that almondy-medicinal quality that it has made me think of that aspect myrrh. I must say I like myrrh as a note but not this almondy-medicinal quality of it (which is very evident in Lutens La Myrrhe, for example).
I also would like the saffron note to be made more substantional and, as you say, edible. The same applies to iris. Your very professional nose found the note there, although you thought it was not convincing yet. My untrained nose didn’t even detect iris in Mod 1 :-)
Thank yuo again for the review, Andy! It was fascinating to read, truly!

]]> By: Andy http://www.whatwedoissecret.org/madebyblog/2006/06/marinas-message-to-clement/comment-page-1/#comment-131 Andy Tue, 20 Jun 2006 16:09:19 +0000 http://whatwedoissecret.org/madebyblog/2006/06/16/marinas-message-to-clement/#comment-131 Hurray, I got my sample....express mail. Thank you! It is quite amazing how the same words on a piece of paper bring up totally different images when read by different persons. That is what I thought when I sniffed the first step towards the holy grail for Marina. Based on what I had under my nose on a little paper strip I tried to imagine what the perfumer behind the trial version had in mind, the images that he was building based on Marina’s description. The other way round, the same perfumer will be faced with feedback and impressions that any of his creations might bring up, comments by clients which again will try to write down their images with words that just can’t it all back. That’s – I guess – one of the challenges of the whole project. Marina’s and Katie’s perfumer will have to find their way into these personalities, visions… Thus, I had a different image of the holy grail. Am I disappointed? Not at all. What I get is –on paper- a scent that is well structured and I must admit that it really is well done, very well done. There are spices, definitely, but…is it what I imagine under cardamon? I get more of a pepper note, after an initial whiff of an exquisite citrus hint which sounds very much like a nice bergamot. And then, the scent moves on, away from the initial spiciness towards a more (velvety? powdery? dry?) calm touch of what might be interpreted as saffron, remembering me in a line that is found within myrrh, but without any of the somewhat dark woody notes that go along with it. What is missing is this edible character of saffron, that I like so much. Then comes the toughest part… the iris thing which I do not find convincing, yet. The composition takes a twist towards a line which reminds me of lilial stories, (smells somewhat cheap, doesn’t it?), somewhat sweet, showing promising signs of a guerlinade, but too nice and even the hints of animalic notes appearing from a rather pleasant back do not make this trial the “romantic, golden, candle-lit” perfume that I imagined and Marina asks for. On my skin, I have to admit, it looks a little bit spicier than on paper but this impression is too short too call it a spicy perfume. The body, which is amazingly lasting on my skin, is nice, well done, and on my skin I get some musky ambergris lines that I love, but….please my dear perfumer fellow forgive me… …I just miss the beef! It is too nice. Time to test the limits! Hurray, I got my sample….express mail. Thank you!

It is quite amazing how the same words on a piece of paper bring up totally different images when read by different persons. That is what I thought when I sniffed the first step towards the holy grail for Marina. Based on what I had under my nose on a little paper strip I tried to imagine what the perfumer behind the trial version had in mind, the images that he was building based on Marina’s description. The other way round, the same perfumer will be faced with feedback and impressions that any of his creations might bring up, comments by clients which again will try to write down their images with words that just can’t it all back. That’s – I guess – one of the challenges of the whole project. Marina’s and Katie’s perfumer will have to find their way into these personalities, visions…

Thus, I had a different image of the holy grail. Am I disappointed? Not at all. What I get is –on paper- a scent that is well structured and I must admit that it really is well done, very well done.

There are spices, definitely, but…is it what I imagine under cardamon? I get more of a pepper note, after an initial whiff of an exquisite citrus hint which sounds very much like a nice bergamot.

And then, the scent moves on, away from the initial spiciness towards a more (velvety? powdery? dry?) calm touch of what might be interpreted as saffron, remembering me in a line that is found within myrrh, but without any of the somewhat dark woody notes that go along with it. What is missing is this edible character of saffron, that I like so much.

Then comes the toughest part… the iris thing which I do not find convincing, yet. The composition takes a twist towards a line which reminds me of lilial stories, (smells somewhat cheap, doesn’t it?), somewhat sweet, showing promising signs of a guerlinade, but too nice and even the hints of animalic notes appearing from a rather pleasant back do not make this trial the “romantic, golden, candle-lit” perfume that I imagined and Marina asks for.

On my skin, I have to admit, it looks a little bit spicier than on paper but this impression is too short too call it a spicy perfume. The body, which is amazingly lasting on my skin, is nice, well done, and on my skin I get some musky ambergris lines that I love, but….please my dear perfumer fellow forgive me… …I just miss the beef! It is too nice. Time to test the limits!

]]> By: Marina http://www.whatwedoissecret.org/madebyblog/2006/06/marinas-message-to-clement/comment-page-1/#comment-128 Marina Tue, 20 Jun 2006 13:05:24 +0000 http://whatwedoissecret.org/madebyblog/2006/06/16/marinas-message-to-clement/#comment-128 Moon-Fish, Thank you very much for your comment! I too hope you will be able to smell our scents (I sort of think that Katie's scent might be more to your liking, but still...), because I would love to hear your opinion! Moon-Fish,
Thank you very much for your comment! I too hope you will be able to smell our scents (I sort of think that Katie’s scent might be more to your liking, but still…), because I would love to hear your opinion!

]]> By: moon_fish http://www.whatwedoissecret.org/madebyblog/2006/06/marinas-message-to-clement/comment-page-1/#comment-127 moon_fish Tue, 20 Jun 2006 07:38:02 +0000 http://whatwedoissecret.org/madebyblog/2006/06/16/marinas-message-to-clement/#comment-127 So much fun to read the blogroll comments... Hope to smell it somehow in future! Especially the last samples which will be close to what you want. When the idea will be clear and just the accents adding and facets needs to polish... So much fun to read the blogroll comments… Hope to smell it somehow in future!
Especially the last samples which will be close to what you want. When the idea will be clear and just the accents adding and facets needs to polish…

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