{"id":31,"date":"2006-06-20T05:00:23","date_gmt":"2006-06-20T09:00:23","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/whatwedoissecret.org\/madebyblog\/2006\/06\/20\/message-from-laurent-and-katies-reply\/"},"modified":"2007-09-16T17:41:59","modified_gmt":"2007-09-16T21:41:59","slug":"message-from-laurent-and-katies-reply","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.whatwedoissecret.org\/madebyblog\/2006\/06\/message-from-laurent-and-katies-reply\/","title":{"rendered":"Message from Laurent, and Katie&#8217;s Reply"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Before Laurent moved forward with the trials, he had one last question for me.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Katie,<\/p>\n<p>Your feedback was very helpful. I will keep in mind that you like the aromatic note. And don&#8217;t worry about the burnt note since it is one of the key elements in the leather note. I just think it should be more refined. Regarding some other notes, I love the idea of frankincense, rich and deep, other resin like Labdanum could be interesting, myrrh, opponax, tolu, peru balsam&#8230;&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>Katie, what floral note do you like and what floral note do you not like? I think I&#8217;ll be ready to start once I have the answers to this question.<\/p>\n<p>Thanks,<\/p>\n<p>Laurent.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>I wrote up what reads more like a shopping list than what is probably a helpful answer, I&#8217;m afraid. Poor Laurent &#8211; he has to wade through my rambling and then try to divine some sense out of it. It dawns on me that perhaps in addition to having both technical and artistic skills, a successful perfumer must also acquire psychic powers for reading the minds of those who place demands on him or her. In this case, there&#8217;s just me, but having to read the minds of, say, a table full of focus group people&#8230; ugh. 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There are much more refined and elegant perfumes employing linden blossom in them, of course. The Pre de Provence is the one I happen to like best. It causes me to feel irrationally happy when I use in the morning.<\/p>\n<p>I love the ylang ylang of J&#038;E Atkinsons&#8217; Cananga di Java, though I don&#8217;t find the note as compelling in other fragrances. I think I like it in that fragrance because it never interferes with the rich woodiness, it simpy rises and soars above to float across the other notes.<\/p>\n<p>I do like rose, but I don&#8217;t think I&#8217;d like rose in our perfume &#8211; I don&#8217;t know why however, and can&#8217;t articulate the reason I feel that way. Maybe it&#8217;s a tad too prosaic? I really don&#8217;t care much for powdery roses. Actually, I don&#8217;t personally care for powder particularly with perfume, period. I can appreciate and enjoy powdery ones, but I don&#8217;t like it. 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One flower I grew (by accident, which is a whole long story) last year was the crown daisy, and the blossoms had such a fine, rather delicate scent that I deeply appreciated. They look like this:<a href=\"http:\/\/community.webshots.com\/photo\/yahoo\/548252650\/2945196420071696169tgGJKo\">click here<\/a>. But again, I do not know whether or not it is possible to authentically translate that aroma into a perfume.<\/p>\n<p>The other notes you mentioned I am sure will be fine. I am mostly hoping for a very good, rather dry smelling resinous quality with the frankincense, anyhow. Just not sweet, please &#8211; I think I may be cursed with sweet-amplifying skin!<\/p>\n<p>Let&#8217;s hope you can pull some common thread out of this list, because I sure can&#8217;t. Perhaps I am rather random in my tastes? GAH! I will clarify anything you would like, since I am thinking this may not contain anything of consistency or use. Although I can&#8217;t tell if I was being too specific or not specific enough&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>Cheers, and thanks again,<\/p>\n<p>Katie<\/p><\/blockquote>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Before Laurent moved forward with the trials, he had one last question for me. Katie, Your feedback was very helpful. I will keep in mind that you like the aromatic note. And don&#8217;t worry about the burnt note since it is one of the key elements in the leather note. 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